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goodbadugly (3 posts) Click to send private message to goodbadugly Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
04-May-01, 06:46 PM (PDT)
"My $175 GFE (with my GF)"
I had a nice $175 GFE the other night. Took my (real) GF out to dinner at an expensive restaurant in SF. Had champagne, wine, everything; with tip cost about $175. In return, I received most everything that we hobbyists desire: French kissing, DATY, BBFS, Russian, BBBJ to completion, but....she said she loved me!!! AARGH!

So now I'm trying to figure out if this is worth it. Certainly having a girlfriend is nice, but that "love talk" sure makes me miss the old (pre-GF) days at MBOT. And if I'm paying that much for dinner, the prices are getting close...

Hmmm.

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dud* (1 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
04-May-01, 07:01 PM (PDT)
1. "RE: My $175 GFE (with my GF)"

which restaurant did you go? I went to french restraurant a week ago, and it only cost me $100 to have the full meal with wine.

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Worldly* (13 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
04-May-01, 08:30 PM (PDT)
2. "RE: My $175 GFE (with my GF)"
Why are you afraid of "love talk" - don't you like your girlfriend?

I once had a girlfriend who gave me great sex (she enjoyed it too). Eventually she gave strong hints that she wanted to marry me. I boldly told her that I didn't love her, I just loved to fuck her. To my surprise, she accepted that and continued having sex with me, but soon she found another boyfriend. To my great surprise, she continued having sex with me as well as him. Eventually we drifted apart - amicably.

You've got a good thing going with your GF so try that!

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goodbadugly (3 posts) Click to send private message to goodbadugly Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
04-May-01, 11:00 PM (PDT)
3. "RE: My $175 GFE (with my GF)"
That's pretty good advice. It's not that I don't *like* my GF, but when she starts talking about love and marriage, it just frightens the crap out of me. Obviously some sort of male inability to commit or something like that.

I just don't know if I can be as honest as you were in your situation.

Peace.

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Miles (539 posts) Click to send private message to Miles Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
05-May-01, 01:50 AM (PDT)
4. "RE: My $175 GFE (with my GF)"
For the most part, I think a lot of women are more predisposed to entertain the idea of marriage then men, a combination of biological (having babies) and cultural/social concerns. Given that focus, I think women spend a greater amount of time evaluating their potential marriage partners, trying to weigh the decision seriously, and they usually start much earlier than you think in the relationship - generally, before you have a clue whatÕs really going on.

Once sheÕs decides your Mr. Right, your going to hear about it, one way or the other.

I wouldnÕt freak out about it. ItÕs not the end of the world or the relationship. Because she finds you marriage material, which is immensely important to her, sheÕs not going to pressure you into making a decision your not ready to make. Women are much more patient than that, and besides, she probably has your entire life as a couple mapped out already. No one wants to throw all of that away for the sake of some impertinent timing. Sooner or later - probably sooner, - sheÕll realize that sheÕs reaching a stage of diminishing returns with references to marriage and that itÕs really putting things out of balance, perhaps even threatening the basis of the relationship. The very opposite of the intended effect. Enter plan B.

Just like Mohammed AliÕs rope-a-dope, sheÕll spend the next several rounds letting you wear yourself out being who you want to be, with a little jab here and there to remind you sheÕs still there. No references to marriage, they never happened. Then, when you donÕt even realize that your weary, that all you have left in you is the ability to say yes, sheÕll hit you with the question. Before you know it, you own a tuxedo, your walking down the aisle, wondering how it all happened and why youÕre so happy.

In the meantime, I suggest a little social experiment. Purely optional, of course. Instead of taking her to an expensive, fancy restaurant, surprise her and take her to something more downscale. Not Kentucky Fried Chicken, but something on the order of, letÕs say, TadÕs steak house. Then see if you still get the royal treatment in the sack when you get home. If you do, thereÕs no point hanging out in this hobby, at least, not in my book.

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goodbadugly (3 posts) Click to send private message to goodbadugly Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
05-May-01, 01:05 PM (PDT)
5. "the rope-a-dope"
>I think women
>spend a greater amount of
>time evaluating their potential marriage
>partners, trying to weigh the
>decision seriously, and they usually
>start much earlier than you
>think in the relationship -
>generally, before you have a
>clue what's really going on.
>

Yes, that's me: the clueless guy. I fully realize that I have had precious little success in relationships, and very little idea about how the female mind actually operates in a relationship. Perhaps I'll learn something this time around.

Excellent advice about taking her to Tad's Steak House and seeing what happens. If I can keep myself from freaking out over this maybe I'll actually settle down and have a real girlfriend for once.

Peace.

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Bud (19 posts) Click to send private message to Bud Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
05-May-01, 11:01 PM (PDT)
6. "RE: the rope-a-dope"
Relax, man. You can say no anytime, and I can tell you from experience, a good woman will talk you into doing a lot of things you end up being glad you did.
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