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quietdesperation* (4 posts) 10-Oct-00, 02:26 AM (PDT) "Married and cheating" Let's face it. Marriage in this day and age is a big joke. It's outlived its usefulness as an institution. The divorce rate is higher than ever. All you see on TV or in the movies is people lusting after sex, either openly or in some sit-com situation with a bunch of stupid innuendos. You really think someone can "live happily everafter" with one person in this kind of society? No way. Even if they do stay married, its always "for the sake of the kids" or some other bogus reason. I cheat with whores because its all I have to look forward to in this miserable, sorry life I've created for myself. Marriage is a bore, this whole world is an even bigger bore. Who cares if its immoral? At least it makes me feel alive, if only for a little while. And if you want to flame me for these comments, don't bother. Save your preachy comments for someone gives a damn. Thoreau said "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation..." I'm one of them. At least I can admit it. How many of you guys are one of them, but can't face it?   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

RE: Married and cheating, Bill C, DC*, 01:01 PM, 10-Oct-00, (1) RE: Married and cheating, Cheap Skate*, 01:45 PM, 10-Oct-00, (2) don't give up, lolita*, 11:41 AM, 13-Oct-00, (11) RE: Married and cheating, running boy*, 04:06 PM, 10-Oct-00, (3) RE: Married and cheating, fishfry*, 05:28 PM, 10-Oct-00, (4) RE: Married and cheating, GPenn, 05:32 PM, 10-Oct-00, (5) RE: Married and cheating, 1536*, 06:00 PM, 10-Oct-00, (6) Why don't I leave?, quietdesperation*, 06:00 PM, 10-Oct-00, (7) RE: Why don't I leave?, 1536*, 06:02 PM, 10-Oct-00, (8) RE: Why don't I leave?, GPenn, 10:30 AM, 11-Oct-00, (10) You Are One Pessimistic Dude, Hmm*, 09:18 AM, 11-Oct-00, (9) RE: Married and cheating, Denied*, 06:17 PM, 16-Oct-00, (12) Keeping it covered, 1536*, 10:29 PM, 16-Oct-00, (13) RE: Keeping it covered, Paul*, 01:46 PM, 31-Oct-00, (14)

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Bill C, DC* (1 posts) 10-Oct-00, 01:01 PM (PDT) 1. "RE: Married and cheating" Actually, I get my gun every day and shoot myself.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Cheap Skate* (26 posts) 10-Oct-00, 01:45 PM (PDT) 2. "RE: Married and cheating" At least your not Paralyzed like me. I was injured at the age of 20 in an auto accident, and I've been rejected by almost every woman who I have ever pursued since. I'll most likely never be given the opportunity by a woman to marry her since I can't even get a casual date! And when I pay $$$ for a HJ, I can barely even feel it, and seldom achieve any sort of a climax. People are natural complainers, but they usually don't realize what they have in life until it's taken away - but by then it's too late.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

lolita* (22 posts) 13-Oct-00, 11:41 AM (PDT) 11. "don't give up" I have several clients who I love dearly and who love me as much as anyone can. One loves his neck biten and nipped and face is very sensitive. I just work him over on the places that he can feel. What he wants to feel most, is loved and cherished. When he calls, I am there. Even though I have raised my rates a number of times and have many clients, I always have time for him and he is my special one, who I allow to feel that he takes care of me, which is important to his ego too! Sometimes, I just put the money back in his wallet when I left, before he got his business started. Now he is just a happy camper. That's what the power of one good woman can do. He cannot have an orgasm. Sometimes has an erection which he likes to watch as I play with him. I have a lot of fun with him, and make him very happy. In fact, he got so happy, that I counseled him on how to make more money and have his own business. He is in a wheel chair and is self sufficient, has some use of arms but from the chest down has no feeling. He is not feeling sorry for himself anymore. I tried to inspire him and challenge him and he is much improved and looking forward to seeing me regularly.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

running boy* (19 posts) 10-Oct-00, 04:06 PM (PDT) 3. "RE: Married and cheating" given that almost everyone on this board is doing just what you are, but perhaps not admitting it, I doubt you will get flamed.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

fishfry* (110 posts) 10-Oct-00, 05:28 PM (PDT) 4. "RE: Married and cheating" you're right, your infidelity and willingness to hurt your wife's feelings deeply are not your fault, they are the fault of the television sitcoms. thanks for clearing that up.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

GPenn (114 posts) 10-Oct-00, 05:32 PM (PDT) 5. "RE: Married and cheating" Not a flame, but I ask: what would it take to make your marriage *not* boring, miserable and sorry? Why don't you do something to make it so? If your marriage is irretrievably that way, why don't you leave? But you say that your marriage isn't the only problem -- you sound very much like Kevin Spacey in American Beauty (well, a little better than that. The high point of *his* day was jerking off in the shower). I will put on my completely-unqualified-armchair-psychiatrist hat and say you sound clinically depressed. Having the whole world seem "an even bigger bore" is something I'd want more than occasional hour-long respites from. You deserve a better life than that.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

1536* (584 posts) 10-Oct-00, 06:00 PM (PDT) 6. "RE: Married and cheating" you might try a little personal responsibility for your actions, too! Boo Hoo, but I'll bet your wife would love a better sex life and wonders what's wrong with you.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

quietdesperation* (4 posts) 10-Oct-00, 06:00 PM (PDT) 7. "Why don't I leave?" Since you asked, my wife is mentally ill and can't live on her own.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

1536* (584 posts) 10-Oct-00, 06:02 PM (PDT) 8. "RE: Why don't I leave?" so you pick on the differently-abled by cheating? Aren't you the hero. Life gives you lemons so you make lemonade and sell it so you can have cash for hookers. Good   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

GPenn (114 posts) 11-Oct-00, 10:30 AM (PDT) 10. "RE: Why don't I leave?" A much more difficult situation. Obviously too complex for simple answers, but that never stopped anyone here. You married as partners, but also feel you committed to be caretaker in the event of disability. I have always felt that if a marriage of equals is replaced by home nursing care (in either direction, of course), that requires a reevaluation of the expectations on both sides. Nobody discusses this when they marry with a commitment of sexual exclusivity, and it seems somewhere between tacky and completely unacceptable to say "well, now that you're paralyzed, I guess I can fuck other people". But while a monogamy commitment is a reasonable thing for many people, I think it's ridiculous to have an implicit part of the marriage contract be "and if one of us loses the interest or ability to have sex, the other promises to be celibate for life". I think it's completely unreasonable for you, her, or anyone else to have that expectation of you.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Hmm* (3 posts) 11-Oct-00, 09:18 AM (PDT) 9. "You Are One Pessimistic Dude" Man, you are one pessimistic SOB.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Denied* (13 posts) 16-Oct-00, 06:17 PM (PDT) 12. "RE: Married and cheating" Hey me and my wife have some issues. If I can keep my hobby secret and excercise it 10 times a year I can live with myself. What I couldn't live with is if I brought someting home. What are my chances of catching something if I keep it covered? Has anyone ever brought something home to their wife and how did you explain?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

1536* (584 posts) 16-Oct-00, 10:29 PM (PDT) 13. "Keeping it covered" If you keep it covered -- very slim chance of catching anything. But . . . keep in mind that genital wartys and herpes can pass at the base of the shaft (uncovered), too. I tend to either go to shaved providers, go around back or stick to BBHJs -- the safest form of fun. Whatever the morals of what we do, clearly we cannot risk the safety of others. God luck.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Paul* (10 posts) 31-Oct-00, 01:46 PM (PDT) 14. "RE: Keeping it covered" As in a famous Monty Python sketch "Off with the Goolies" Our brains are in our cocks I tned o look at it like this The Past - Desire PresentTime - Fullfillment Future - Regret So we try and stay in present time - searching for that moment of pleasure - orgasm. We go from desire, to experience a moment of pleasure and contentment (and we pay top dollar for it) right on thru to regret (male grief) and back into desire. You can almost catogorize all of human activity as either pleasure or pain and the search and running away from these. I believe the trick is to break out of this game and become truly happy or sad or something anyway, I haven't managed it yet ((work in progress)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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