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SunnyDale* (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
25-Mar-01, 08:05 PM (PDT)
"Is it just me?"
I'm wondering if anyone else can relate to my past few experiences at AMPs. It's making my head hurt.

.Girl #1 asks me to take her out (I do, twice), holds my hand everywhere we go and start talking about getting together...then leaves the country...theoretically to be back next month. Emails asking if I want to get together (I think that's what she was asking), then seems busy all of a sudden.
.One of her friends (Girl #2) who is still here is seemingly begging me to let her practice on me. Wants to come over, but I tell her I can't do anything with her until situation with the first girl is resolved. Second time she does all the same stuff the first girl did and more...and seems very into it.
.She seems like trouble, so I start seeing Girl #1's other friend at the AMP (Girl #3). Seems like a nice girl (no extras), but good conversationalist. Second or third time starts crying on my shoulder about her situation and wanting to leave. She decides I am her very good friend (I am) and asks me to take her out after work, so I do a couple of times. Now she's leaving the country...theoretically to be back in a few months.
.Turns out that right after the session with me and Girl #2, she went out with another client. Now they are boyfriend and girlfriend...and she is leaving the country, to return shortly.
.I'm tired of this so I try...Girl #4. See her twice, then without prompting starts giving me a BBBJ - actually more like licking it all over slowly, and next time starts (you guessed it) crying on my shoulder (speaks no english) and then kissing me all over.

WTF? Is this shit normal? I'm wondering whether there will be any massage girls left in the Bay Area if I keep this up. Or am I some damned BFE for them? Ouch, my head!

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Miles (526 posts) Click to send private message to Miles Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
25-Mar-01, 11:09 PM (PDT)
1. "RE: Is it just me?"
Thought I better reply to this post quickly because I'm leaving the country for about a month or so. I should be back, but it may be too late.

I've never heard of anything like this at all, at least not here in SF. One thing I've learned over the years that doesn't seem peculiar to any particular AMP is that AMP girls generally talk to one another about their customers. In your case, it could be that your info packet at this place is stuffed with stories about how you are potential boyfriend material. That could be good, if it leads to a couple of nice, unconditionally friendly dates. It could be bad, if it leads to an expectation from a girl carrying a temporary, soon to expire visa, that you are potential permanent visa material. In other words - marriage for convenience. Something to watch out for when girls are leaving the country. If they're here legally, it may be for just a short period of time. Depends on the visa.

Or it could simply be that you happened upon the great, previously undiscovered vortex in the spacial fabric of AMPs. That mysterious massage parlor were the only reason the girls are working there is because they have determined that's the best way to meet prospective boyfriends. We've all heard such a place exists (well, at least we all have dreamt that at some time or another) and you found it. And before you can say "When are you coming back to the country?" not one, not two, not three, but four potential girlfriends materialize.

Jesus, I always knew this place existed! I don't know why I didn't find it!

Seriously, if I were you, I do exactly what I felt comfortable with and nothing more. It seems like the more girls you see, the more complex the picture becomes, so you might "settle down" with just one (from that parlor) and see where that goes. In my experience, if you cross the romance line with any AMP girl, even slightly, and then see another girl at the same parlor (or in your case, the whole damn parlor) it's trouble.

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SunnyDale* (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 01:19 AM (PDT)
2. "RE: Is it just me?"
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I kinda thought it was rather bizarre, and my head was hurting a lot. Vortex is a rather apt description.

I agree about things getting more complicated. And I do know which one I want, they all know it (I told them all), and she doesn't need a visa AFAIK. We'll just have to see what happens when the one I want gets back, if she still feels the same way.

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Realist?* (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 12:38 PM (PDT)
3. "RE: Is it just me?"
No, it's me too. Isn't it possible that some of us hobbyists are really attractive guys that providers could fall for?
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helper* (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 01:32 PM (PDT)
4. "RE: Is it just me?"
Wake up, guys. You are day dreaming.

It is your money that attracts those girls, why don't you ask if you can play without pay.

We, hobbyists are too attractive to resist, yeah! you have forgot your medication today.

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SunnyDale* (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 04:44 PM (PDT)
5. "RE: Is it just me?"
Well I've never paid for their time when taking them out. Just paying for dinner or a movie. I have no illusions about my attractiveness. That's why I was asking about this weird situation. Seems crazy to me.
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sterling* (2 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 05:50 PM (PDT)
6. "RE: Is it just me?"
South Bay very slow right now, but my observations are not that old. Try to choose one girl only at a particular AMP. The girl will appreciate and reward you. Even if you do,the other girls come sniffing around, checking you out, watching you dress/undress, shower.

They have their pecking order and you must be mindful. One girl I had selected was high on the pecking order, got one fired/one transferred for messing with me. She watches me like a hawk now when I am there. Curiously enough, I have played practice dummy for her trainees. Another girl was low on the pecking order. On her day off, I went with another higher girl. My first girl was gone in 2 weeks (back to Nam, last I heard).

They fight over regulars for sure. I guess there aren't that many regulars. I'm not going to fool myself that I'm all that sexy.

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SunnyDale* (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
31-Mar-01, 08:12 AM (PDT)
7. "RE: Is it just me?"
These girls seem to be cooperating and sharing information rather than fighting amongst themselves. The girl I'm interested in suggested things which only the first girl I ever took out there (now married to a customer for visa purposes) would have known...like suggesting late lunch (same thing I did with first girl) and that I liked all meat pizza (same thing I ate with first girl). This struck me as odd...like I was being hunted by a pack of girls.

Anyway, she sent me an email today saying how she likes me more every day and that all her friends(coworkers) like me a lot too. (They must have been talking again.) And some other stuff about us having so many things to talk about and so many new ideas to try together. Seems like a very sweet girl and I really like her. We'll see what happens.

Thanks to all for the advice and just for listening.

BTW...I usually just go in for a massage and let things run their course without asking for anything. You'd be suprised how much you get when you leave it up to them. I usually tip at least $40/hr if whatever they do is good, even if it is just a very nice massage rather than a handjob. And I tip the going rate if they go above and beyond the call of duty and do it well. I usually give the nicer girls a short massage of their neck and shoulders, as well as their hands (especially the crook between the thumb and forefinger) which can get quite stressed after doing hard massages (and extras) all week. But that's just me.

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alienfap* (0 posts) Click to EMail alienfap%2A Click to check IP address of the poster
10-Apr-01, 12:59 PM (PDT)
8. "RE: Is it just me?"
To me, the one you really like seems like a good bet. Sunnydale, you seem like a very nice man. I'll bet the girls at this AMP noticed. You became a topic of discussion with them and generated the observed interest. You stood out in this way. It's the packet thing that Miles mentioned.
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SunnyDale* (0 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
10-Apr-01, 11:09 PM (PDT)
9. "RE: Is it just me?"
Thanks for the kind words. I tend to agree with Miles and you. And I agree about the girl. She's great but far away, so it is iffy at best. She's talked about moving here sometime, but nothing close to definite. Maybe I will go visit her. We'll see.

And I try to be nice when I can to balance out the times I am inadvertently a complete asshole (more often than I'd like). But your mileage may vary.

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SunnyDale (4 posts) Click to send private message to SunnyDale Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
29-Apr-01, 10:14 PM (PDT)
10. "It is getting weirder all the time"
Once the first girl delayed her return for two months I gradually told her we should reconsider things. & I was not interested in in being strung along by pretty words or stringing her along. She said she didn't want to lose me, but I told her I just wanted to be friends until circumstances changed and laid out the rules under which I would consider more than friendship. Thanked her for inspiring me to clean up act, look elsewhere for a real girlfriend, and quit going so often to massage parlors (hers). I'm sure she has been seeing someone else and just being nice (she thought) or covering her future options. When I said we could talk when she returned, she agreed but acted very curt and a bit perturbed. Also asked if I had been talking to her friend (wondering if friend had busted her?). Doesn't really make sense for her to be mad since I was cutting her loose in a very nice way to explore her other possible options and telling her I wanted to still be friends. What more could I do? I think she thought I hated her. I said I didn't care if she had found someone else - happy for her as long as she's happy, and maybe some of her friends might like me. Also told her flattered by her having considered me as possible marriage material and then proceeded to give her some advice on selecting marriage partners (very good advice too).

So the very next time I go to the shop where girl #1 is a co-owner, the girl #4 asks me to go out with her that night. All the other people in the shop were mocking her for having a crush on me. So I go out with her and the girls and the owners (minus girl #1). She is holding my hand and stuff in with all of them around, and at the end of the night I drive her home and give her a hug. The next day, the owner asks me if I have ever had a Chinese girlfriend, says girl #4 is very honest and sweet and says she will call up girl #1 and see what's up with her. Also said girl #1 had mentioned being inerested in marrying me, but maybe impulsive and just gets enthusiastic about whoever is around at the time.

So anyway...the drama continues. I don't want to lead girl #4 on into thinking I'm really looking for something serious in the very short term. I like her. She is nice and pretty, but her english is quite limited. However, the prospect of girl #1 returning to find her own employee together with me at her very own shop is positively...umm...Springer-esque. I doubt girl #1 really even cares though...just fishing for men I think.

That's all for now.

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