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mister_handy (705 posts) Click to send private message to mister_handy Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
19-Mar-01, 03:13 PM (PDT)
"BDSM reviews"
Other than a few on "that other sf-blah site" does anyone know where I can find reviews of BDSM providers? After the "strap on" thread, I'm seriously considering trying this route...
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whistle (7 posts) Click to EMail whistle Click to send private message to whistle Click to check IP address of the poster
19-Mar-01, 07:37 PM (PDT)
1. "RE: BDSM reviews"
Hey, I think that's what this forum should be, until Redbook decides otherwise and starts a member review section for BDSM (I know that RB has stated that TS reviews should go here until they decide whether to start a seciton so I'm assuming they have the same attitude toward BDSM reviews.

For what it's worth: Don't miss Pandora, esp for fetish play and if you like an old fashioned, roaring 20s look. Cute, slim, and very into the sessions. Fantasy Makers can be hit and miss, but is inexpensive and a comfortable setting. Petra is intimidating and claims she won't play with novices. Anybody else?

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CJ* (17 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
19-Mar-01, 09:37 PM (PDT)
2. "RE: BDSM reviews"
Petra is only intimidating if you are a panzy. She is firm, in control, stunning in appearance, and compassionate in session. Basically, the ideal dom.
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whistle (7 posts) Click to EMail whistle Click to send private message to whistle Click to check IP address of the poster
22-Mar-01, 03:08 PM (PDT)
7. "RE: BDSM reviews"
It's nice to hear Petra is good in session. I never got that far. On the phone she indicated to me that if I was anything less than a seasoned veteran of BDSM I needn't bother talking to her any further. At the time I was not, and I thanked her and hung up.

I presume most people looking for reviews are relative novices; based on nothing more than that one phone conversation I would not recommend that novices contact Petra. ("Novice" being a very different term from "Pansy.") If you are an advanced player, maybe give her a call. I was turned off for good by her attitude (even though I now am a relatively advanced player, with both pros and amateurs.) Has she changed? Are my beliefs about her unwarranted or out of date? I'd very much like to know.

Thanks,
Whistle

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CJ* (17 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
22-Mar-01, 05:21 PM (PDT)
8. "RE: BDSM reviews"
Okay Whistle, I understand your point of view. My experience with Petra began a couple of years back. I was a novice that did have "working knowledge" of BD/SM and she was willing to see me. I remember my first call to her. She was very firm yet kind enough to ask questions and allow me express my interests. I have probably seen her 8-10 times since but I do not consider myself an advanced player by any means. She is always willing to see me and I hold her in very high regard.

My recommendation is that if you are not a chump, and you don't sound like one, you should give her another try. I can understand how you were turned off in the first place if she projected that type of attitude. Interestingly, she was one of the last doms that I called. Ironically, my attraction was the result of her willingness to work together and her sense of fairness.

She is not considered one of the best doms in the country for no reason at all.

Loyal Worshipper

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whistle (7 posts) Click to EMail whistle Click to send private message to whistle Click to check IP address of the poster
22-Mar-01, 08:51 PM (PDT)
9. "RE: BDSM reviews"
Thanks CJ, you certainly don't sound like a chump at all and I take your opinion of Petra seriously. My call to Petra, wow, I would put it at about seven years ago. Maybe I caught her on a bad day, maybe right after the third guy in a row who showed up and said "you do what?" or "no sex? you're kidding, right?" Or maybe she's softened her "no novices" stance a bit. Either way, I'm encouraged that it might be fun to give her a call. (I have experience, but "advanced"- hard for me, even seven years later, to comfortably accept that mantle.)

I have heard positive things about Petra elsewhere too, although she seems to hold herself away from the "community" more than a Cleo DuBois or Midori, for example... but this could be a good sign or a bad sign, I don't know. One hears a lot of good things about Fantasy Makers too and as I said before, they're hit and miss at best (although I met the delightful Pandora there, under her old name.) Cleo may be famous and highly skilled but physically she cannot meet the fantasy that I have in my mind.

So have you seen anyone else you recommend? Other folks have opinions? While I appreciate TV/TSs, I am glad to keep a thread alive that makes the
Darker Side forum something other than TS Land!

whistle

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CJ* (17 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
22-Mar-01, 10:13 PM (PDT)
10. "RE: BDSM reviews"
Whistle- seven years ago is a long time. For me, the real story goes like this: For many years, I had bought the Spectator and cruised all the ads in the back of the rag. As I am not particularly fond of blonds, I never called Petra. After exhausting the entire list of classified and display ads, I finally decided to call the Lady Petra. I think this was around 1996 or 1997. She was the best on the phone and she knew that I was obviously somewhat nervous to call. I suspect she noticed my sincerity on the phone which may have something to do with her willingness to see me. Our first session last a half hour which was followed up quickly another time with a full hour session. The rest is history.

While she may appear to stay away from the community more so than the likes of Cleo and Midori, I would not discount her by any means. In fact, I interpret her degree of privacy as something that I admire. I have spoken to Cleo on the phone and have seen her in person (not in session) and would probably take a "pass." I have seen other doms in NY during various trips and can only consider them a very pale comparison to Petra.

At any rate, I am a pervert of habit. Petra Saint is simply outstanding and I do not see the reason to look much further in this area. Would rather continue to explore my limits with her rather than moving around.

Devoted Worshipper

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sojo (347 posts) Click to send private message to sojo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
20-Mar-01, 09:17 AM (PDT)
3. "RE: BDSM reviews"
misterhandy, I have hoped that this area would work as a review section for doms as well, but I can see an inherent problem. It is one thing to give a less-than-flattering review of a provider. But imagine the predicament if you give one to a dom. What will your next session with her, or one of her compatriots, be like? To be tied up and facing a woman with a grudge AND a whip could be more than many guys would want to feel.
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mister_handy (705 posts) Click to send private message to mister_handy Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
20-Mar-01, 11:15 AM (PDT)
4. "RE: BDSM reviews"
*nod*

I don't know about you guys, but I don't generally give my redbook handle when seeing ladies. An appropriately discreet review is unlikely to give away your identity or do them any harm...

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sojo (347 posts) Click to send private message to sojo Click to view user profile Click to check IP address of the poster
20-Mar-01, 11:54 AM (PDT)
5. "RE: BDSM reviews"
I agree and I never tell them I even know about Redbook, but some of the guys on this board like to "brag" and as a result will find themselves compromised.

My biggest problem right now is even getting my foot in the door with some of the doms and providers. I have to reinvestigate my approach as it doesn't seem to be working. Either that or else business is really good for them.

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Mr Lemon* (1 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
20-Mar-01, 01:50 PM (PDT)
6. "RE: BDSM reviews"
Lady Mina is spectacular, if you like em petite. She is an extraordinary dom, sweet, and beautiful in the way that only 22 years olds can be! Obviously my ATF.

Maya/Laura is good because she can do both dom or sub, both very well.

It all depends if you're looking for Dom or Sub, in my book. There are many good dominant providers. The good subs are harder to find, Lucinda (sweet, good for spanking) and Belle (evil, needs hard whipping) are both great.

I think the gates THEGATESSM has got the best all-around selection. But I like the younger girls.

Fantasy Makers has gotten...er...kind of strange lately. Seems like a lot of old and fat doms. Not my cup of tea.

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subdude6* (1 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
23-Mar-01, 02:37 AM (PDT)
11. "FantasyMakers"
"Fantasy Makers has gotten...er...kind of strange lately. Seems like a lot of old and fat doms. Not my cup of tea."

Uh...I don't know what you've been smoking, but if you check out the website, you will see that this is not the case. I have seen Alyssa, Mia, Gemini, Clarity...all young, slender and extremely talented and into what they do (Alyssa and Gemini for the harder and more psychological scenarios). There are some older and heavier dommes, but they are not the only ones available. Check out the website at www.fantasymakers.com. And incidentally, the best way to deal with the "hit and miss" thing is to read each ladies' web page CAREFULLY. Their web pages discuss their turn-ons and turn-offs most extensively.

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whistle (7 posts) Click to EMail whistle Click to send private message to whistle Click to check IP address of the poster
23-Mar-01, 09:05 PM (PDT)
12. "RE: FantasyMakers"
I second subdude6! There are a variety of women available at Fantasy Makers and always have been. If you want slender, young, and cute, it's there. If you want big, old, and butch, it's there too.
And if a guy is foolish enough to make an appointment with a lady without reading her web page or talking extensively about her limits and interests on the phone while making the appointment, then that guy probably won't be happy with his visit. Of course, they're very good about matching interests on the phone so that probably doesn't happen much.

What I meant by "hit and miss"- the potential pun value of which I JUST realized- was that I've met ladies there with less skill than I'd expect from a pro and less focus on the session thn I'd like. That said, I've also met some truly wonderful ladies there, some of whom are gone, but many of whom remain. And of course, your mileage may vary. For example, I'm sure many guys find Olivia thrilling- she's certainly attractive but I personally didn't click with her.

I think with their emphasis on privacy, the low cost of a session there, and good overall quality it would be a nice place for a novice to learn about BDSM.

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New2service* (2 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
25-Mar-01, 07:22 PM (PDT)
13. "RE: FantasyMakers"
>
>What I meant by "hit and
>miss"- was that I've met ladies
>there with less skill than
>I'd expect from a pro
>and less focus on the
>session thn I'd like.
>That said, I've also met
>some truly wonderful ladies there,
>some of whom are gone,
>but many of whom remain.

You're right, but you said it the first time - you have to make sure you're matched up with the right person. I've been "browsing" at Fantasy Makers for a couple of months now, so I have an idea who my favorites are, though I keep getting tempted by new arrivals... But I think the best part of Fantasy Makers is that they're not, strictly speaking, "pros" -- they're amateurs: people who play because they love it. Some of them are highly skilled, seasoned players, others are refining things they've enjoyed with partners or even clients. They're not all doms, or all subs, or even all into BDSM! That means if you want to play sensory games, or watch a show, or wrestle, or you just need to cuddle, you can meet a woman who's not pissed off because you didn't come to be tied up and tortured. They don't put you down if you admit that you're a novice, either, like some of the "pro's" do.

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Honest B* (369 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 00:40 AM (PDT)
14. "New2service"
Could you brief us on the folks you have seen so we can get a fellow hobbiests opinion on whom is right for us??? could yah,please!
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New2service* (2 posts) Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 11:16 AM (PDT)
15. "RE: New2service"
>Could you brief us on the
>folks you have seen so
>we can get a fellow
>hobbiests opinion on whom is
>right for us??? could yah,please!
>

I'm kind of new being "out" with this, and I've only been seeing "pro's" for about 5 months, so I'm still exploring. Discovered I like interrogation sessions a LOT. I'm not shy, but some things I'm uncomfortable talking about, and it's good when a Mistress makes me say what's on my mind. I like educated women who TALK in session. My favorites for that are Tatiana, Patricia and Alyssa. Alyssa does a medical scene that will blow your mind, if you like to be SCARED. Everyone tells me I'd really like Julianna too, but she's got such a short schedule I haven't managed it yet. She's only around on wednesday nights.

Sometimes I like quieter, more "introverted" scenes. Tatiana is very good, and she's introduced me to a few of the softer, more sensual women. Olivia was a lot of fun, Selene is wonderful, and a couple of times ago I was just getting to know Jezebel, and she invited Phoenix and Atheris in, just for fun. That's something I like about the place, you never know when that kind of thing will happen, if you say you'd like to meet other ladies. Anyway, it was a hot, crazy session.

You didn't say what kind of hobbyist you are, though. You may like something completely different, and "click" with different women, so do what I did. Call, and tell them what kind of scene really turns you on. Then believe them when they suggest somebody. It took me 3 times before I met Tatiana because I didn't take Lorette's word for it.

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whistle (7 posts) Click to EMail whistle Click to send private message to whistle Click to check IP address of the poster
26-Mar-01, 04:30 PM (PDT)
16. "RE: FantasyMakers"
>I think
>the best part of Fantasy
>Makers is that they're not,
>strictly speaking, "pros" -- they're
>amateurs: people who play because
>they love it.

Well, I do understand your point, but strictly speaking they do accept donations for BDSM play, so they are "pros," and as long as a session is pre-negotiated and doesn't veer into unexpected territory they should be skilled at whatever they agreed to do.

>They don't
>put you down if you
>admit that you're a novice,
>either, like some of the
>"pro's" do.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I can recommend Phoenix, Patricia, and Tatiana as outstanding. Olivia is skilled and beautiful but we did not click. As for disappointing sessions- I've had some and would prefer if people want to know about another woman at FM to email me; however, I've only had experience with a couple of current FM ladies besides the ones listed above. I go way back! (Lady Tanith, anyone?)

Whistle


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warmpoet* (1 posts) Click to EMail warmpoet%2A Click to check IP address of the poster
03-Apr-01, 04:46 PM (PDT)
17. "RE: FantasyMakers"
tell me the good ones and the bad ones. i will tell you of sydney.
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