welcome to the business world.

come up with a good idea and people "borrow" it. to stay alive you need to constantly innovate. you can't patent multi-milkings (but you might be able to copyright the term).

I know it's *buyer beware*, but that's just plain bad business. I also think it's up to each of us to make that information prominent when it happens. I understand that occasionally there's some rude, smelly, or odd guy that they just want to push out the door, but as a regular practice that seems underhanded.

Man, this is more complicated than I thought. Nevertheless, forward I go ....

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Also, asking on the phone for details is for clarification. How do I know that 1) what the reviewer wrote is true, 2) does the provider still provide the same types of services or did she change the menu so to speak, 3) it is a means of getting to know the provider a little, listening to her voice and trying to gauge her attitude and personnality.

I would agree with a previous poster, if you can't handle answering the same questions over and over and over and over, you shouldn't be in this or any other sales type business. Let's face it, you are in a service/sales type business. You are selling a service, the customer is buying that service. The customer wants to be sure that they are going to receive the type of service that they are expecting. That requires questions, and unfortunately, us customers, are only asking the questions a few times to providers while you are probably getting the questions from every customer you talk to.

Unfortunately, that is the sales side of the business and you need to maintain a plesant demeanor with each customer. I realize it can be frustrating but that is the nature of business.

Before you decide to call a provider, re-read just her reviews to see if she is right for you. When you call it should be to confirm price and get schedule and location information. Look at the number of reviews and the reviewers to gauge the level of trust to put into them. If you are just calling to kick the tires, understand that providers get quite a few calls like that from guys with no intention of booking - it is a waste of time. As far as them dealing with the same question over and over, the problem is that they could expose themselves to problems by answering those questions, so only those desperate for business or willing to assume higher risk will do that.

Unfortuneately, that is the customer side of the service you are seeking, and you have to maintain a respectful and business like demeanor with each provider. I realize it can be frustrating, but that is the nature of hobbying.

this is exactly the kind of debate i was looking for, and i think it's great to see it from the hobbyist's point of view as i tried to show the provider's point of view.

but i am a hypocrit, i didn't follow my own advice and do my homework. there was a thread today about a provider who hung up on a caller who inquired about her FS rates. and the replies, as well as the ones to this post, really made me think.

it's a huge price to pay -- risking arrest because a caller isn't organized. i did that enough in the beginning in order to get established. but beyond that, from what i've read, a class act, a true professional, will not discuss it over the phone or via email, and that's the sort of provider i want to be.

if i lose a few good apples because i'm more hardnosed, so be it. i can't do more than be consistent in what i deliver, that's all i have control over. like someone said above, better safe than sorry. better to go slow and comfortable, than end up burnt and bitter or with an arrest record.

this is something i need reminding of more often: it's up to me to establish boundaries. if someone doesn't know where the boundaries are, they cannot be faulted for crossing them. if i can't take responsibility for establishing limits I can't call anyone else out for not taking responsiblity for their actions.

so, i'm chastened and wiser.

thanks for the food for thought and have a good weekend.

"it's a huge price to pay -- risking arrest because a caller isn't organized."

You hit the nail on the head. I once had a gentleman come to my incall dropping money on the floor when he entered the room, re-asking prices, trying to negotiate a lower fee AFTER he arrived and even asking for the cost of a "5 minute quickie" after he booked an hour. (This was the same gentleman who did all this!!) Needless to say, I had to end our date.

Doing your homework and using discretion is key to having a memorable time. Clients have to remember that the trust factor has not been established yet on the first date.

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Your opinion is acknowledged and I understand your frustration as a provider.

However, how can johns know if your reviews say BBBJ is on your menu but you has excluded it from your service without asking? Feature is defitely 'key' to choose the provider. I met the provider who has a reputation of BBBJTCWS/DFK and I paid her $$.5, but I won't pay the same amount of money if she does not do it.

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